Dr. Jerry Johnston: What we see in trends that – even in the nones – that atheism is a small segment. Would you agree? Or are people afraid to say they’re an atheist?

Dr. Richard Dawkins: Oh no, it is small. It is small especially in America. It’s not small among elite scientists. It’s about 90% among elite scientists, among members of the National Academy and, similarly, fellows of the Ross Society in Britain. I think we’ve got a job to do – I mean an educational job to do.

@cristiejohnston and I have now filmed with nearly 100 of the leading sociologists, philosophers, scientists, atheists, and apologists in the world. And, our multifaceted project continues. We are in the process of writing four separate books as well as producing several other resources.

Dawkins admitted to us in Oxford, England that “atheists” represent a small population in the USA. Correct. Four out of five Americans believe in God. Pew Research (survey of 4,700 adults in December 2017 and released April 25, 2018) reveals that one-third of Americans say they do not believe in the God of the Bible, however, 56 percent say they believe in God “as described in the Bible.”

Cause for concern: Adults under age 50 and college graduates are less likely to believe in God than older Americans and people with only a high school education.


Drs. Cristie Jo & Jerry Johnston
May 9, 2017 Interview with Dr. Richard Dawkins

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: Let’s just for instance say that the Bible is true and its claims are true and that when all of us stand before God one day, we will give an account of ourselves. How then will you justify your life in atheism when you stand before God?

Dr. Richard Dawkins: I think, well, I would first of all say to God, ‘Which one are you?’

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: Meaning?

Dr. Richard Dawkins: ‘Are you Zeus, are you Apollo, are you Thor, are you Mithras? Are you the great JuJu at the bottom of the sea?’

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: And that would be important to you because?

Dr. Richard Dawkins: It’s my sarcastic way of answering you because you are talking as though there’s just one God.

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: Okay.

Dr. Richard Dawkins: And I’m pointing out to you that there are thousands of gods that people have believed in and so the first question is to establish: ‘Is this Baal?’ And then I think I would probably quote Bertrand Russell: ‘Not enough evidence God, not enough evidence. Why did you hide yourself so convincingly?’

Professor Richard Dawkins is a British evolutionary biologist, ethologist and writer. He is often referred to as “the most famous atheist in the world.”


Drs. Cristie Jo & Jerry Johnston
May 9, 2017 Interview with Dr. Richard Dawkins

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: So God hides himself and Richard Dawkins needs evidence. What sort of evidence would it take to convince Richard Dawkins that there is in fact a God?

Dr. Richard Dawkins: It’s a very difficult question that I used to think was an easy question. I used to think that you would simply say, God could perform some amazing wonder that we would all see.

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: Like a miracle.

Dr. Richard Dawkins: Yes, like a miracle. And I suppose it would be possible, it should be possible to devise a sufficiently convincing miracle, but if you’ve ever seen a really, really good conjurer, they do miracles. Of course, they’re not miracles; they’re tricks. But you would be – any naïve person would be – convinced it was a miracle.

Scientist and atheist, Dr. Richard Dawkins, told The Guardian that he was “greatly encouraged” to learn that the unofficial Arabic pdf of his book The God Delusion had been downloaded 13MM times. Dawkins writes in The God Delusion about his wish that the “open-minded people” who read it will “break free of the vice of religion altogether”. The book has sold 3.3MM copies worldwide since it was published in 2006.


Drs. Cristie Jo & Jerry Johnston
May 9, 2017 Interview with Dr. Richard Dawkins

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: How did you get over your sexual abuse? Because many people like the nones that are listening to this documentary right now – many of them perhaps have been sexually abused. They are looking for ways to recover.

Dr. Richard Dawkins: There’s a spectrum of sexual abuse and this is my point. The abuse that I endured was negligible compared to what some people endure at the hands of maybe a family member. There’s awful stories of fathers or uncles saying, ‘This is our little secret between us,’ and day after day, night after night, week after week abusing them. It’s very, very difficult to get over that kind of thing. But if it’s just a very small incident as it was in my case, I got over it. You’re asking me how I got over it. I went and talked to my friends about it and they said, ‘Oh yes, that happened to me too.’ And a little bit later, the teacher concerned committed suicide.

Atheist Richards Dawkins’ upbringing was typical Anglican, he was confirmed and believed in God until his mid-teens when, having read about Darwin’s theory of evolution.

Has Your Faith Affected Your Promotions?

Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: Has your outspoken Christianity, your outspoken faith, caused any problems with your promotions here at Rice University? Because we see that in other parts of the country. What about for you here?

Dr. James Tour: Nothing has happened in promotions as far as professorial promotions at Rice. I came to Rice as a chaired professor and I’ve maintained that chair. Thirty years ago, things were different than they are now. In 2004, approximately when the Dover trial occurred, there was a sort of change where people started thinking more critically toward Christians. I have been held back tremendously in awards and in societies – in professional societies that have not permitted me to come in because of my faith – because of my not buying in wholeheartedly to the mantra of evolution.

Dr. James Tour’s scientific research areas include nanoelectronics, graphene electronics and photovoltaics, carbon supercapacitors, lithium ion batteries, chemical self-assembly and carbon nanotube and graphene synthetic modifications. He has also worked extensively on carbon composites, hydrogen storage, and practical applications in medicine and oil recovery for nanoengineered carbon. He is perhaps best known for his carbon-based fullerene-wheeled “nanocars,” a 2005 breakthrough feat in nanoengineering that produced functional, rolling vehicles just a few nanometers in size.

Tour also built small humanoids using similar technology. An example called the “NanoKid” became the basis for a school-based learning program for children that introduced them to nanoscience. His commitment to science education continued with his more recent Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar Hero science educational package development for middle school education.

Tour received his bachelor of science degree in chemistry from Syracuse Univ., and his Ph.D. in synthetic organic and organometallic chemistry from Purdue Univ. He joined the Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology at Rice University in 1999. Tour has more than 650 research publications, more than 120 patents and averages more than 3,000 citations per year.


Dr. Jerry Johnston: If some of these stats are right, about 80 to 90 percent of students raised in solid, biblical-teaching churches don’t continue their faith after they go to a secular university. How do you respond to that?

Dr. James Tour: Well this is part of why I’m here. We have to fill universities with people who love the Lord and are not afraid to talk about Him. I even understand and I see myself what’s happened in the last 20 years with my being here at Rice. Students used to come to me and to say, ‘Biology professor so-and-so is mocking Christians all the time.’ Is he mocking Christians? Why would they want to do that? Have they not enough biology to teach? Why don’t they come and mock me? We’ll go toe-to-toe. And they can mock me and tell me how silly I am. And we’ll put my credentials against theirs.

Each year, the editors of R&D Magazine are tasked with the responsibility of choosing candidates for its top individual award, the Scientist of the Year. For 48 years, this Award has recognized many of the world’s preeminent scientists and most accomplished researchers. Without exception, its recipients have made substantial contributions to their field of study, whether materials science, physics, biology or chemistry.

Professor James M. Tour was named the 2013 R&D Magazine “Scientist of the Year.”

The . T. and W. F. Chao Professor of Chemistry at Rice University, Tour is a synthetic organic chemist who has made numerous contributions to our fundamental understanding of chemistry and materials science, particularly at the nanoscale. His work has resulted in a wealth of practical applications for microscale and nanoscale science, and he, with the contribution of the James M. Tour Group research facility at Rice, has helped make substantial advances in the ability to manipulate small volumes of organic materials.


Dr. Cristie Jo Johnston: So, Professor Tour, let’s talk about you being a racecar driver. So, if you Google the word ‘nanocar,’ your name pops up as the creator, along with some other team members here at Rice University. What is a nanocar? And how do you race a nanocar?

Dr. James Tour: So, a nanocar is a single molecule. It has a chassis, axles, wheels, and motor. And you build it such that it’s all based upon the building up of single molecules. You can park about 50,000 of them across the diameter of a human hair. The diameter is this way across the human hair. So they’re very small. We make about a billion, billion of them at a time. And they had the first nanocar race this summer in Toulouse, France. And we won.

James M. Tour, PhD, has published more than 650 research articles, and has developed more than 100 patents. He was inducted into the National Academy of Inventors in 2015. Tour was named among “The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today” by in 2014, listed in “The World’s Most Influential Scientific Minds” by Thomson Reuters in 2014, and was the recipient of the Trotter Prize in “Information, Complexity and Inference” in 2014. He has received numerous other awards for his research and his work as a professor.

How does science strengthen your faith?

Jerry Johnston: How does science strengthen your faith?

Dr. James Tour: When I look at biological systems, and the amazing functionality of a biological system – even if we just take a cell, just a single cell, and you look at the mechanisms within that cell – it is utterly amazing. Take any chemist, any biochemist, any evolutionary biologist, and say, ‘I will give you all the components of a cell. I’ll give you all the nucleic acids, all the proteins, all the lipids, all the carbohydrates. Could you hook them up in the orders that they need to be hooked up?’ The answer is ‘no.’ ‘But even if I gave them to you in whatever order hooked up that you wanted, could you then put them together in the cell and have the cell operate?’ And the answer is ‘no.’ Anybody who would claim otherwise is a rookie. They really don’t know what they’re talking about.

James M. Tour, a synthetic organic chemist, earned a PhD in synthetic organic and organometallic chemistry from Purdue University, and completed postdoctoral training in synthetic organic chemistry at the University of Wisconsin and Stanford University. He joined the Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology at Rice University in 1999, where he is presently the T.T. and W.F. Chao Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Computer Science, and Professor of Materials Science and NanoEngineering.